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WSTA HR Roundtable Meeting Minutes
Intercity Transit
Friday, June 5, 2009
Present:
Debra Hughes, Ben Franklin Transit; Sheryl Olson and Tina Guzinski,
Community Transit; Julie DeBoever and Sandi Free, C-TRAN; Jean Braaten
and Patti Carlin, Grays Harbor Transit;
Christine DiRito, Shannon
Hofstetter,
Dave Kapaun,
Shannie Brinton, Ed Ruttledge
and Mike Harbour, Intercity
Transit; Marianne DeMers and Nancy Venard, Kitsap Transit; Mary Adams
and David Collier, Lane Transit; Lori Dougherty, Mason County
Transportation; Alberto, Brian Thrasher and Jean White, Pierce Transit;
Mary Lozeau, Skagit Transit; Chris Baldini, Spokane Transit; Kimberly
Somers, Whatcom Transportation; Michelle Parvinen, WSTA
Welcome & Introductions:
Mike
Harbour,
General Manager and Ed Ruttledge, Intercity Transit HR Director welcomed
the attendees to the Intercity Transit facility in
Olympia.
Financial Outlook Updates: Roundtable Members
Mike
Harbour,
Intercity Transit –
Financially looking good through 2011. Ridership up 45%, Board
tentatively looking at August 2010 ballot measure to raise sales tax
from 6/10 to 8/10. If it
doesn’t pass may need to reduce service by 10% in 2011 or 2012.
Currently have a lot of capital projects due to stimulus.
Chris Baldini, Spokane Transit
– Extended sales tax, good through 2011.
Mary Adams, Lane Transit –
Funding is through state payroll tax.
Anticipate layoff of 14% (30 TTL).
Fifty percent of stimulus will go to operations.
Did a small service modification.
Look to go from 7/100 to 8/100, but this year looks rough.
Debra Hughes, Ben Franklin
Transit – Looking at a service reduction, 1,500 service miles.
Froze all non-represented wages for a year.
Nancy Venard and Marianne DeMars,
Kitsap Transit – Stopped
Sunday Service Board looking further service reductions in mid-May.
TBD. Smart card started.
Started light duty at Customer Service for work related injured
operators. Have not hired drivers since March of last year.
Attrition has drawn down 40 employees. Due to good, upfront
publicity, the lack of Sunday service has been picked up with vans made
available to church groups. The community outreach was very successful.
Patti Carlin, Grays Harbor
Transit – Receipts down by 25%.
Due to grants, doing OK.
Not looking for any increases.
Lori Dougherty, Mason County
Transportation – Sales tax is down, but not enough to dip into the
reserves. Hoping for own
fuel station; currently co-op with
Shelton School District. No layoffs, no reduction
in service anticipated.
Julie DeBoever and Sandi Free,
C-TRAN – had budgeted flat for this year but down 14%.
Looking at 5% cuts.
Not freezing hires but positions are scrutinized by the executive staff.
Hoping to layoff through attrition. Looking to a 2/10% increase, 3/10%
total with light rail.
Mary Lozeau, Skagit Transit
– Recently went to 4/10%.
No layoffs. Doing a service increase – hired 5 new operators and 1
supervisor. Will start
negotiations in August.
Union has asked to keep the current contract in place
through 2010.
Tina Guzinski, Community Transit
– Revenue down 15% from last year.
Looking at voluntary furloughs for administrative staff but can’t
count on it. Doing a salary survey this year.
Alberto Lara and Brian Thrasher,
Pierce Transit – Pierce was under budget for the first two months of
the year. They have not
tapped into their reserves.
July 2011 is their drop off point.
Had layoffs in October.
Recalled all represented that were available.
Pierce has a 30 year old system; have created Team “PT Tomorrow”
to raise awareness in Pierce County
on public transportation. Hoping to get a vote for an increase in
revenue. Negotiations were
recently completed and they held 5 very successful training sessions on
the new contract. Looking at a 3.8% increase in July. They are currently
in arbitration over a Sunday run.
Are relooking at how workers compensation is handled. Want a more
aggressive return to work.
Kimberly Somers, Whatcom
Transportation – Had the highest ridership levels but revenue down
by 14%. Fare increase from 75¢ to $1.00 for all rides; express is $2.00.
Dipping into reserves will last through 2011.
Have some service reduction plans ready if needed. Every job is
being scrutinized. Labor negotiations due to start this summer. ATU is
asking not to go through with the negotiations.
Will probably start up in August or September.
Labor Outlook Updates: Roundtable Members
Kimberly Somers, Whatcom
Transportation – Labor negotiations due to start this summer.
ATU is asking not to go through with the negotiations.
Probably start in August or September.
Ed Ruttledge,
Intercity Transit – Finished
negotiations with ATU last year. Will be negotiating with IAM this year.
Anticipate negotiations will go well. Although the HCA benefits
are the best deal, employer rates are going up 28% in July. Will have
labor arbitration next month over an insubordination case that was
caught on camera and the cross-talk on dispatch.
Marianne DeMers and Nancy Venard,
Kitsap Transit – have had
ULPs and counter-ULPs, appeals and counter-appeals with the ATU for the
past 18 months. Unable to get to interest arbitration due to ULP
charges. Board has directed that the county do an investigation into
perjury charges brought forward by the ATU.
Debra Hughes, Ben Franklin
Transit – Had very few grievances and 1 arbitration. But recently
received three grievances and two more coming. Issue is over employee’s
completion of training before they are start probation.
Chris Baldini, Spokane Transit
– Have a 3.4% wage increase. Supervisors also union and get a 3.4%
increase.
Starting negotiations with paratransit staff.
Julie DeBoever, C-TRAN – The
IAM has started out adversarial.
Looking to start negotiations soon. They want everything the ATU
has. ATU settled last fall. The board is looking to cost share benefits.
Non-represented and ATU took on 5%, IAM has 100% of everything.
Mary Adams, Lane Transit –
Using Echo NW to do an economic study of comparables. Expect to be
bargaining pension costs and health care costs.
Tina Guzinski, Community Transit
– All settled except ATU. In interest arbitration with ATU for 62 items.
They want 3% for 3 years, full medical and eliminate part time.
Video Camera on Buses: our experiences; accidents, union issues and
disciplines: Ed Ruttledge and Roy Burns
Ed and Roy presented a quick review of issues regarding on-board video
systems. The reasons for installing video are a) risk mitigation from
on-board incidents; b) risk mitigation in accidents; c) reduce
vandalism; d) remove doubt.
They showed videos of certain incidents when the video came in handy for
investigations. Videos can
be used for accident/safety analysis, counseling/training and
disciplinary incidents.
PERC has spoken! Decision and impact of installing video systems is not
subject to bargaining UNLESS “camera used for discipline, directly
impacted the terms and conditions of employment and the employer was
required to bargain both the decision and effective of…the use
of…cameras” King County-PERC
9495-A (2008): “If you are
going to use cameras for discipline, you have to bargain the decision
and effects.” Cathy Callahan,
PERC Executive Director May 28, 2009
Intercity Transit involved the operators during the process. They were
on the procurement team, listened to operators from other agencies,
helped develop policy and procedures, and secured initial Memorandum of
Agreement.
There are issues that continue with contract negotiations on discipline
in ‘self reporting’ and discipline must be related to “specific
incident.’ On the 2009 Grievance
Settlement items were the repositioning of cameras to prevent viewing of
drivers’ compartment and management must contact business agent or
potential discipline.
Other issues are the issue of public records request. The videos are
considered “records.” It takes a lot of time from staff to view videos
for records request and investigations. Right now the only charge for
public request is the cost of the video.
What Intercity Transit did right:
Involved operators from the beginning of the process, use the video for
counseling and training, and use the video to resolve spurious
complaints. What Intercity
Transit did not do right: Operations Director commented that the
error was not involving Human Resources from the beginning. The union
was not involved and felt that Human Resources would have reminded them
of the importance of that.
Sandy
commented that the Department of Transportation grants does cover
cameras, radios and fareboxes.
Legislative Update: Michelle Parvinen, WSTA
Have hired a lobbyist. Having a union member on the transit systems’
board was killed by amendment. Senate bill 5180 (flag stop bill) sailed
through, passing successfully. Unlawful action transit bill was worked
through. High Transit Corridor (taxing authority) helped C-Tran and
Spokane Transit. Bill 1225 (Sales tax exemption bill) passed. Bill 5433
($20 Local option tax bill) was vetoed at the last minute by the
Governor. Asked if the $20 local option bill would get resurrected, told
would probably be reintroduced in the Joint Transportation Committee.
WSTA asked to pick up and publish the 6 month economic data information
that is now being done by DOT only every two years.
The 6 month data is very beneficial.
Drug and Alcohol Testing Program Update: D&A Subcommittee
Christine DiRito,
Intercity Transit: Has done recent Drug and Alcohol refresher classes
agencywide. Problem is that no one has an up-to-date training video on
the effects of drugs and alcohol. Uses the one from Comdata, however
very out of date. Does NOT cover the effects of over the counter and
prescription drugs as well as Meth. Questioned if there was interest
among members to produce one.
Do something similar to what we did with the Ergometerics
training and testing tapes; use our own staff to create and “star” in
video. Try and use grant
monies from WSTIP and L&I to help cover costs.
Members indicated they were interested; Christine to schedule
sub-committee meeting in the next couple of months to discuss further.
Christine also reminded committee members that D&A subcommittee
meets quarterly and this is a good venue for agency DAPM’s to meet and
discuss program and testing issues, share information.
Will send out notices of next meeting to all.
Also informed members of information recently gleaned at TSI
Reasonable Suspicion Training: Prescription and Over the Counter Drug
testing is in the near future; possible next 3-4 years.
Christine provided update on status of DOT’s mandatory observed
collection procedures for return to duty and follow-up testing. Some
unions opposed the “observed collection process for "return to duty and
follow-up tests.” The US Court of Appeals recently ruled it is
not unconstitutional. We are
waiting for FTA’s response.
Mandatory collection sites can not make employees of the agency
be the observer. Christine has more information for those interested.
Alberto suggested that in the future if we need to, we could tap
into the procedures that Department of Corrections is using for observed
collections, as they have been doing observed collections for years.
Ergometrics Testing
Kimberly Somers, Whatcom Transportation – They have noticed that those
with English as a second language (ESL) had difficulty with the
ERGOMETRIC test.
Christine DiRito,
Intercity Transit – asked if it would be worthwhile to have ERGOMETRIC
come to the next HR Roundtable.
Others thought this would be good idea.
Alberto Lara, Pierce Transit – Asked what others do where there is a
large ESL population – Louisiana,
Texas, and Southern California.
WSTTC Training Coalition
Christine report that Stephanie from Pierce stepped down and Christine
has taken her place on the Board.
Christine noted that compliance training for DAPM’s should be
yearly or at least every two years. The next training will be at the end
of this year or early next year in Washington State. The FTA national Drug and Alcohol
conference is scheduled to be in
Los Angeles, CA.
The Training Coalition would like a list of items you want for
topics/training. They need your input and ideas for upcoming training.
H1N1 Flue and Communicable Disease Issues:
Tabled until next meeting
Lane Transit’s Training: “Supervisor’s Role for Handling Employee
Reasonable Accommodation Requests
Mary Adams and David Collier gave an explanation of the ADA Supervisors
training. Was attended by
25 to 28 people; primarily for Operations Supervisors.
Training takes approximately 1.5
to 1.75 hours. Provides
good, interactive discussion. Handouts included slides, a couple of
quizzes, and a couple of case studies to discuss. A question was raised
about getting union involvement when an accommodation is requested by
union member.
Ed Ruttledge stated he tried to involve the union but
they didn’t want anything to do with it.
Marianne DeMers, Kitsap Transit stated that one particular case was an
accommodation for a particular bus.
It was Ok’d but later taken away due to union bid process.
Considered ok because you don’t have to violate the union
contract for the accommodation.
Ed Ruttledge commented on the HRC and
Washington
State’s “super” ADA definition of disability – a disability is
“Any diagnosable condition”. Part of the problem is there are no case
studies to determine what trumps what.
Marianne DeMers stated they now have a new job description for new
employees so are currently working fewer than two sets of job
descriptions. Ed Ruttledge recommended they give notice to the
union of a pending change. The union would have to respond within 14
days to demand to bargain.
May go into arbitration but would have a good chance of acceptance by an
arbitrator.
Cobra Subsidy Update
Ed Ruttledge
discussed the new COBRA subsidy is part of the “Stimulus Act.” There are
three parts to the Cobra Extension and two of them are of interest to
the employer. With the short
term Cobra, the employer is responsible to pay 65% of Cobra premiums for
up to 12 months. The employee must be “involuntarily terminated” between
9/1/2008 and 12/31/2009. The employee has an additional 60 days to elect
a Cobra plan. The employer is reimbursed for paying the subsidy, with
the reimbursement coming as a credit against their federal payroll taxes
(FICA). Involuntarily
terminated employees must be given notice of extended Cobra benefits.
Model notices are available at:
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/COBRAmodelnotice.html.
. Employer is the one to
determine if the employee qualifies.
Long term Cobra is for “older workers” that are eligible for Cobra
benefits until they are Medicare eligible or they secure coverage
through subsequent employer. Long term Cobra is NOT subsidized by
employer. An older worker would be an employee that worked 10 or more
years for employer or age 55 or older.
Outsourcing Reference Checks; Your Experiences
– All Members
Marianne DeMers, Kitsap Transit
uses REXIS out of South
Carolina.
They are ex-CIA officers. Costs differ based on criteria.
For drives it is $110.00.
Due to info that has come back, they have rescinded 3 job offers.
Takes between 48 to 72 hours. Went to REXIS due to litigation.
Had they done so before, there probably wouldn’t have been any
litigation. Was asked what do you do when they can’t get anywhere with
an employer. They contact the perspective employee to get with the
former employer. Has worked so far.
Tina Guzinski, Community Transit
–AIR didn’t work.
Kimberly Somers, Whatcom
Transportation – Uses Pinnacle. Does limited checks. Does
multi-state calls. Very
pleased with them. Is a
woman-owned business. All but reference checks take 24 hours. Has
various plan rates. Basic is $45
- $55. Top $100.
Patti Carlin,
Grays Harbor
Transit – Uses Pinnacle. Had a bad experience.
Was an outstanding warrant that wasn’t picked up (drug charges
and embezzlement.) Now uses
REXIS for State and SSN verification.
Lori Dougherty, Mason
County
– Good things came from their checking; Lori’s SSN had been used by someone
else. Good catch!
Debra Hughes, Ben Franklin
Transit –Had bad experiences on reference checks by Background
Source out of Idaho. Do Federal,
criminal, driving and education checks. Check SSN through e-verify. Have
toyed with the idea of doing finger printing.
David Collier, Lane Transit
– Use “Open On-Line”, does nation-wide search for $18.00 a record. May
be a delay for results. All
on-line. They do reference
checks in-house.
Tina Guzinski, Community Transit
– Uses “Regis E-degree”. Does a nation-wide search. Cost $18.00 per
record. The perspective employee send out to references and the former
employer sends it back. Problem is you don’t know which reference sent
back what.
Julie DeBoever and Sandi Free,
C-TRAN – Uses WA ST Patrol for criminal background checks. Reference
checks done in-house. E-verify for SSN.
Next Meeting:
Next meeting will be held Friday,
October 2nd
hosted by Community Transit and Skagit Transit; exact location TBD
Proposed agenda ideas:
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ErgoMetrics Testing Concerns; share w/ErgoMetrics Representative
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Year End Benefits Summary / Total Compensation Summary (if you do
one, bring it so all can compare.)
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Discussion on Worker Compensation Claims; Prevention, Management,
Costs and Strategies, Job Analysis
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H1N1 Flu/ Pandemic/Emergency Planning (Mary Adams, Lane Transit
passed out their policy at this meeting, she can lead
discussion.)
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D&A Sub- Committee Update
Announcements: SHRM Conference in
Portland
Sep 30 – Oct 1.
WSTA Leadership Retreat in Winthrop on July 30th. Kimberly
Somers, Whatcom Transportation will represent our group at this meeting
PLS NOTE:
If you have ideas for future agenda items, pls. forward them to
Tina at Community or Mary at Skagit.
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